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Old Forums
31-08-2003, 17:59
yeah i am moaning again...and this time i have a real good reason...its getting real annoying now when ppl are killing hossies...either as t's so they can just hide and win...or as cts when they have rescued two of em or summit and can't be arsed to rescue the last lot cos they know they r guarded so they justshoot em from a distance. The server used to kick after 4 hossie kills i think it was and for some reson this was taken off, PLEASE can we have this or something like this bought back. Killing hossies goes against the whole point of the game, if you are a terrorrist then they r ur livliehood and your way out, and if you are a ct then why else would you be sent in. Can something PLEASE be done about this...ta.

Old Forums
31-08-2003, 23:20
I say it should be 8 hossie kills or so. Sometimes I kill a full set of four in a firefight or when someone is rescuing them and they stand in that darn line.

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 00:00
It should still be on 4 :cool:

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 00:02
Can it be upped a little, then? lol..

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 00:11
Totally agree with Kumbyah and Red Dragon here.

I mean, I thought the scenario of those type of maps were for the CTs to rescue all the hostages, not just execute them cos their "inconvienient", and for the Ts to actually be bothered about keeping the hostages they've so painstakingly abducted, not just thinking "geez these guys cramp my style, lets execute them so I'm not so tied down so I can kill some police".

I know this is not necessarily the actual game mechanic for winning the map, but don't u think u should try and keep to the spirit of the map as much as possible, instead of just deathmatching with cs weaponry?

I think that the 8 hossie kills (or maybe 6, which is imo more preferable) is not unreasonable however as accidents do happen and some hossies unintentionally die. But to just frag around the map, with the hossies there for window dressing does seem to be taking the piss a bit don't it?

P.S. Grr to the SC server. Tried a few times to join it recently and show me face (yes shock horror - I went for a game of CS!!) but the bloody servers always been full :D I wanna see just how bad me aims got (and yes I know it was shite to start with lol) in these 9 months or so I haven't played :D

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 00:15
Originally posted by Crazy Ivan
It should still be on 4 :cool:

Ok scrub me previous post except the P.S. bit :D hehehehe

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 08:41
can you like do.. 4 hossie kills = slay
one more time and you are kicked :P

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 11:46
phil wow come back!

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 12:40
was that Mr Dead?.....

nice ta seeya m8, come on the server and get FRAGGoff`d.....lol

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 13:34
it ain't 4 ivan...i just went into server wit someone else...killed the 4 hossies and nothing happened...are u sure u ain't accidently disabled it

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 13:36
Originally posted by RedDragon
I say it should be 8 hossie kills or so. Sometimes I kill a full set of four in a firefight or when someone is rescuing them and they stand in that darn line.

servers ya right for being a peon who can't aim :D

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 14:51
Originally posted by Kumbyah
servers ya right for being a peon who can't aim :D

I think that would be serves me right, I'm not a server.

If I can't aim, you couldn't hit a barn door from 2 feet away. You try killing the 3 remaining CTs who are carrying the most stupid AI-influenced hostages down a tight tunnel without hitting them.

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 15:52
kill the dude leading them, leave the other two for when they try to get the hossies or come out after u...if u r behind...serves u right for being a dumbass tactically

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 16:14
Yeah because I'm a complete tactical idiot. :rolleyes:

Sometimes when the rest of your team dies and you're caught behind a set of CTs taking the hossies in front of you, you have to shoot them from behind. Killing three hossies would mean the CTs can't win, so they would have to come after you. That makes sense with the CS game set, since the Terrorists no longer have control of the hostages they might as well kill them.. and it is the Counter-Terrorists objective to protect the hostages he's rescuing.

So, killing three hostages could be used as a tactic. Accidently kill four? Bam, you're kicked. If you ever looked at the hostage AI, you'd notice it's complete crap and hostages have the tendency to run around like headless chickens.

Killing one CT from the front (meaning the CTs were heading towards you) completely gives away your position to the two remaining CTs (this is an example, saying there are 3 CTs taking the hossies and you are the last remaining man). You can't take another angle of attack, because by then the CTs might have realised what you're up to and had a clean break for the hostage rescue zone. On somewhere like Italy at the bottom of the tunnel, with two remaining CTs who can work half-decently as a team it's hard to find decent cover to attack the running CTs.

If you want to wait until the two remaining guys grab the hostages, thats insane. Like I said, you've just given your position away, so whilst one CT grabs the hostages the other covers your last known position. Whoops, as soon as you pop out to kill them both, you get your arse handed to you.

You can't help being behind a group of CTs when they're grabbing the hostages if you're covering another point and relying on your teammates to keep the cover. Are you telling me you're always in front of the rescuing CTs when they grab the hostages? Whatever.

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 17:22
heh heh, i killed 2 cts with deagle in the tunnel in italy and never hurt the hostages.....if i can do it.....:p

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 17:23
hostage punish should eb set to at least 8 for matches at least, last match we had on italy i had to resort to guarding ct spawn and waiting for the cts to bring hossies, i killed 2 cts and the last was taking the hossies, went to shoot him and hey presto i get kicked for killing 4 hossies, this is inexcusable in a match situation as we could have (would have actually ) won the round had i not been kicked. personally i think it should be 8 perminantly as hossie killing isnt a big problem on server and in a situation where 2 hossies have been rescued i have no problem killing the final 2 of the teams are unfair and cts need to win a round to get some cash, its not as if its common practice anyway.

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 18:36
i can see that in a match...accidental kills and then getting kicked is plain stoopid, but when you are a terrorrist desperatly defending the last hossies and some lame comes along and kills them it just wrecks the game.

RD you should not have let them take the hossies in the first place, defense is the name of the game

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 18:45
u and I both know sometimes its impossible to stop them taking the hossies and that shouldnt mean the end of the round, the shows not over til the cts are dead :P

Old Forums
01-09-2003, 21:42
i ain't gunna argue with tact...he kicks me when i do that